Frum: Cheney should not be criticizing Obama

Sure, Cheney has an opinion and was second in command of the most powerful nation on earth. After 9/11 he helped keep this natio safe. The media and the Democrats (is there a diffference) have painted Bush and Cheney as the problem but the issue I have is where the democrats on a 8 year vacation? Had the Democrats not run congress the last 2 years? If Cheney want's to talk CNN does not have to listen if they do not want to. But where will they find their next round of republican bashing material...

Both of them can say whatever they want (Cheney/Limbaugh). This is America. They are more right than wrong. And if you don't like it, just don't listen. Personally, I say 'fire away'. There's an awful lot to point out that the media surely is not.

Cheney is like a hangover that just won't quit. He and his party had their chance, and they blew it. They should keep in mind that the American people voted them out; it wasn't unjustly stolen from them by a pack of devious Democrats.

as an ex republican, it makes me sad to see this Lincoln connected party drift into wall street, help the rich, illegal wars, and to ruin our economy by letting "everyone in America own their own home" no matter what the costs. to let the banks loan money to people who could not qualify for rent payments, then sell the paper, and put huge amounts in their pockets IS the republican way. IT ALL FAILED–A.L.L.

How safe did Cheny keep americans before 9/12?

Hey Rush, Chenney – you all had your time to ruin the country. Too bad I helped support your first endeavors too because now that I realized I was wrong in voting in 2000 for you, hopefully you'll realize your wrong and shut the F up! Oh wait, who am I kidding – of course I know you won't realize that. Why the media even reports what you babble on about, I don't understand. If both of you got up out of your chairs though and talked, we might be able to understand you better since your mouth is hidden inside a part of your anatomy!

Sorry, I think someone needs to be critical of the Obama administration – given how critical they have been of Bush et al., it is hardly credible now they feel upset that Cheney is criticizing them.

The biggest problem with the Bush administration is that they failed to adequately defend their policies from the hysterical left wing.

Sure, Cheney has an opinion and was second in command of the most powerful nation on earth during 9/11 he could not help keep this natio safe.

I have never read such GARBAGE in my life, I think it is something CNN should not report. As far as Rush, He should be jailed and his DJ days shut down for good...What a slime ball

You have whack jobs running the GOP. I am out of the party. Time for a third party, and for now am an Independent.

Good job Rush and Cheney, you have destroyed the GOP!

excellent point, pointofview. i thinkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

Gore slammed Bush for 8 years ! What is the difference between the Cheney/Obama and Bush/Gore

the man did nothing for 8 years and now he wakes up. Why do we even give him the time of day

Cheney belongs in prison. Any prison will do, but the Hague would be ideal.

Frum has it right. If the Republicans want to have a chance in the next elections they need to shut up the closed minded, ultra-right wing people in their party. Nobody wants to hear this stuff anymore. We need to talk about making OUR lives better not giving more tax breaks to the wealthy, improving our environment, and getting serious about energy independence (T-Boone Pickens has a plan that is a good start). If Republicans can jump into the 21st century and moderate they will see large gains in the next couple elections. However, if Obama does well, then...

CHENEY LIMBAUGH BIRDS OF A FEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheney's not a "great man," he's a power-hungry freak who sold out the best interests of this nation to Halliburton, KBR, and the rest of the war profiteers while lying us into an unwinnable war where we've killed tens of thousands of innocent poeople. Where's the "great" in that? All he does now is bash true patriots like Powell while trying to defend his gleeful use of torture. What a "great" American.

Bush and Cheney WERE the problem for 8 years. Let's not pretend otherwise. And there is a HUGE difference between "the media" and the Democrats. Just ask FOX news. When will conservatives ever wake up? Do you Republicans really want Rush Limbaugh and Cheney to be calling the shots for you? Are you really that afraid of them? Or, more scarily, in awe of them?

How long has Cheney been senile? Was it the entire time he was president? Oh wait...he was the VICE president. I forgot and so does he.

I totally disagree. If Obama released all of the records and did not politicize this the Cheney should shut up. But since Obama is playing politics Cheney should scream from the mountain tops.

I resent that Obama is saying my Country is a torturer. If that is true please get the justice department to investigate and prosecute (including the President). Quit playing politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama, release the documents that show the whole story. I thought you were going to e the President of all the people?

The problem here is that Chetry and others keep ignoring that Cheney and Bush committed war crimes, drove our economy into a swamp by spending more than any other admistration in history, and through their incredibly stupidity, lost America's position in the world as a leader, and turned us into the bully on the block.

Those that whine about Cheney and Bush being "bashed" need to get a grip. The MAJORITY of Americans (about 80 percent) believe that these two idiots, and their staff are NOT great men, but in fact are the reason we are where we are today. The Republicans whined for years that if they could get control of the government, they'd make things better. They had control of the presidency for 8 years. They had control of Congress for 6 years. What did we get? Chaos. by creating fear and divisiveness, they promoted their own sick agendas, and pandered to the very wealthy. It couldn't be more rediculous. And Cheney, the great man, can't even keep his mouth shut. He is admitting to things that will get him convicted. It does not matter that he thinks his activities were OK. They were and are war crimes.

Bash Republicans? As a former Republican, tell me where to do the bashing. I'm ready.

Cheney is just trying to make Dems look bad. He should shut up. Nobody cares what he has to say. You're not the VP anymore!

What motoviates Cheney is revenge, bitterness and shame. He will lash out at anybody to protect his brused ego. The American people see right through his persona – it's so old hat. Unfortunately, there are folks that actually take Limbaugh to heart – he's just an entertainer and a slave to ratings and his megabucks income – how else is he to keep his jet running and consuming all those pain killers?

Only the fringes are represented in the media. The most extreme and most ignorant of both parties. Who wants to read about someone saying something logical and reasonable, when you can print the rants of the lunatics on the fringes. That makes for much better entertainment.

Finally, a republican making some sense. Keep listening to this guy and maybe I'll vote republican in 2012.

Cheney is an un-prosecuted criminal who willfully broke the laws of the United States in misguided attempts to pursue his vision of unlimited power executive power and silencing critics who disagreed with him. What the country owes him is a trip to jail.

Cheney is a psychopath.

It's odd that Frum thinks the GOP should draw a stark contrast between itself and the Democrats. That's not usually how US politics works. Usually, the two parties do their best to look exactly alike (when they're running against each other) and then fight the political battle entirely based on personality.

What Frum's describing is more like how politics works in his native Canada where the parties try to draw stark contrasts between them and work hard to avoid showing any personality at all.

I don't think Frum's ideas will work in US politics.

Until the GOP treats people equally how can they be trusted with anything else? They seriously need to stop the social war on anyone not extremely religious, GLBT people who just want to move on with their lives like the rest of us, and pull back on the anti-abortion rhetoric. ACKNOWLEDGE other Americans have the right to disagree on these subjects and ALSO the right to follow their pursuit of happiness even if it doesn't match their personal moral beliefs. Then I can listen. Until then, when somoene you haven't met yet is known for being obnoxious and socially rude to others, do you look forward to meeting them? Would you think them trustworthy? Once the GOP removes the tarnish of hateful, divisive behavior then I'd be interested in hearing their ideas. Until then, if you act like a child you get treated like one.

What was Cheney doing when the Bush Administration was warned in August 2001 about the likelihood of attack by Al-Qaeda? We know Bush was pretending to be a rancher for the month of August and was busy playing politics with stem cell research policy.

Cheney can criticize whomever he likes. Is it suddenly ok for Obama to say anything about Cheney? Read the first amendment, left wing liberal media. This frustrates me.

Frum sounds fairly intelligent. Wonder why he is a Republican? I want Cheney to keep on acting like a deposed leader. Evil little man is getting off easy. Prison would be too good of a place to put Cheney. Let him keep digging the hole so deep that even the 'historians' he is paying to make him look "honorable" will have a difficult time with that fabrication.

We are to blame, we chose to not hold our leaders accountable.
Now we have a new administration, who is asking us to help change the mood and the direction of the country.

No matter who is in charge, we all have a stake in this Nation.

To tear down the ideals and leadership, does no one any good.
Right now we need to all work together.

I have little respect for anyone who tells the rest of the Nation
you are unpatriotic because you are of a different party, race
or sexual orientation.

Republicans, Democrats and Liberals all need to work together.
Our nation is only as strong and as resiliant as per people.

I only ask that Limbaugh and Cheney, look at the greater harm they
are doing by being so negative.

What is that old saying, if you have nothing nice to say...
Say nothing at all.

As for the ideals of this Nation in the Global network.
I feel safer and stronger today, then I have in a very long time.

Change is coming.

Point,

A fair question about the Dems during the Bush administration. I railed long and loud at them trying to get them motivated. But, that doesn't change the fact that Cheney broke the rules. He outed a spy because her husband exposed the lies about the WMD in Iraq. He authorized the use of torture on enemy combatants, something even John McCain has spoken out against.

As for the last 2 years of the Bush Presidecncy and the Dem's control of Congress, you need only look at the number of Veto's that GW exercised during that time. And, quite frankly, I don't think they did that great a job anyway. And I AM a Democrat.

Ultimately, however, you can't overlook the bad and just count the good. Cheney and Bush only kept America safe by exposing hundreds of thousands of our youngest men and women to harm. Not to fight a just war, but to fight a petty one. And, we can't be sure that we ARE safe. After 9/11, we can't ever be sure again. Not even if we don't suffer an attack for another 10 years. Because one happened.

It's fine for Obama to make comments about everybody else, but when Cheney say something, it is a no no.
Bull!
Blame Bush/Cheney for the country the way it is, but always remember, Clinton the dirtbag let Bin Laden go, or they may never have been a 911.
Obama, the Jerry Seinfeld wanna be. What this country REALLY needs now is a joker, and we have one!

"the issue I have is where the democrats on a 8 year vacation?"

The Democrats weren't on a 8 year vacation, they were watching the worst administration in United States history suck the life out of this country. I will admit that they did a horrible job of trying to stop the Bush/Cheney agenda. That agenda got us to where we are today. We can only HOPE that the Obama Administration can undo 8 years of tax breaks for the super rich, a disasterous foreign policy, an even more disasterous environmental policy, and a total disregard of the United States Constitution.

The challenge with Cheney, whether viewed as a "great man" or not, is he was a key player in a hugely unpopular, and what some would call the worst, adminstration in the nation's history, and is completely unapologetic. He seems to think if he keeps saying the same things over and over again the public is going to change its mind. The verdict is in on the Bush adminstration, and its not pretty. Cheney's message is a losers' message – if the Republican party listens to the likes of Cheney, Rush and other hardliners, they are going to find themselves with absolutely no voice after 2010... a couple more seats switch in the Senate and the Party is over!

This is where you are wrong Frum.... The BUSH administration was nothing more than a bunch of THUGS that need to be prosecuted. We are in a war that was uncalled for. They did so many illegal things that I can't even keep track of. When is the REP. party going to pull their respective heads out and see that Cheney duked you all into believing his madness. Iraqi had NOTHING to do with 911 and all the bickering back and forth will never change that. Look at the polls of how many REP. have turned against your party because of what Bush and Cheney have done. The moral of this story is that justice should be serverd, and served serverely. I think they both should be WATERBOARDED in public!!!!!

Leave it CNN.com to make sure every thing that critisizes Bush and Cheney gets noticed and placed on the home page!!!!

I predict the culture war in America will turn into a gunfight if America does not return to its roots of conservatism. While everything is relative in politics, we as a nation have not only gone down the path of liberalism, we have all but declared war on the past. But do not worry left wingnuts, it won't be long....there is a reason the conservatives are stock piling ammo.

Frum has it right, whether you like Cheney or Rush is not the point, their position cannot be defended on this, the Republican party must be more inclusive if it wants to have any value and that means taking care of the moderates in the party no bashing them every chance you get. It's ridiculous as usual, personally I hope the GOP keeps up all the bickering and that Rush and Cheney remain in the spotlight (which I am sure they will considering both are too selfish and stupid to understand that they are doing more harm than good) and they can maintain their group of right wing nut jobs, I am liking the way things are.

I didn't care what he had to say when he was the VP. He, Bush and all the rest of the Bush cronies should all be prosecuted for war crimes.

Cheney should be in prison for getting us into Iraq. He weakened the nations military, put us further in debt, and attacked the wrong country. Anybody who tells us of his "greatness" is deaf, dumb, and blind.

Frum was a speech writer for the Bush administration and yet Republicans push that aside and blame CNN for bashing their party. They accuse the Democrats for being on vacation the last 8 years when no Republican is to blame for the condition of this country. When Republicans learn to point the finger at themselves instead at the Dems or the media then maybe they will re-gain some respect.

Comments from people like Limbaugh and Cheney only hurt the GOP cause because it reminds people why Republicans have fallen out of favor. Most people do not subscribe to ultra-conservative ideology (i.e., hate, intolerance, etc), yet the biggest voices in the GOP espouse this unpopular view. Why would anyone outside of a wealthy, white, male want anything to do with the GOP? People like Cheney are so bent on holding onto the past that they fail to see that more and more people are leaving the party as a result. You simply can't remain static in your thinking as the world evolves. Clinging to very narrow, unpopular viewpoints will just kill the party. As a Democrat, I'm delighted.

If the obama administration would put a clamp on it then Vice President Cheney would be happy to zip it.

Cheney is a small man. We owe him a shiny new pair of handcuffs and a one way ticket to The Hague. I really don't care what he says, the harder he tries to convince us, he did the right thing, the more apparent it becomes that he's trying to hide something.

He keeps spouting about how Bush kept us safe AFTER the 9/11 attacks. If anyone in that administration had bothered to read the August security bulletins, there might not have been any attacks at all.

War criminal. Put a rope around his neck like they did that other guy. America will be better off for it.

This country is in a whole lot of hurt right now and things are even going to get worse once the Obama administration is finished with their liquidation of the American automobile industry later this summer. Mr. Cheney should be more concerned about helping our entire country out rather than his legacy as President of the United States.

"pointofview" - Enough with the bashing of the media, CNN, and democrats.... This interview was with "conservative columnist and editor of newmajority.com," David Frum. This wasn't CNN interviewing a liberal wacko or something... This is someone in the Republican party!

Yet another reason why I can no longer identify with the republican party.

Cheney needs to keep his opinion to himself. No point in continuing to polorize the country. They showed what they can do and look where we are. I say "zip it," the voters have spoken.

Cheney has every right to disagree to any negative comment about President Bush and his administration. He as a citizen can voice his opinion and disagree with the way our country is being ran. The left did it all the time the last 8 years. I feel that the Republican party is struggling right now and really it was to the benefit of the left that MaCain was running against Obama because if Romeny was running he would have chewed Obama up on the ecomony and foreign policy. We are spiraling down as a country and our great correspondents don't want to admit that Obama and his cohorts are as crooked as it get. They lie and attack anyone that goes against them. That is way I am looking to move to another country until we get a government that speaks for the majority and not the Left minority.

I think Dick Cheney is one of the most accomplished people to ever serve in Washington. I wish he had run for President in 2008. He would have had my vote for sure.

He is a great man and his opinions should be listened to by all. Republican, Democrat, Independent, etc.

Should not criticize? Is this not the US of A? Cheney's silence in exchange for not prosecuting him for defending our country against a known threat? The criticism points out problems that could lead to crises, Obama's favorite term. I do not believe this is the time for anyone to be silent, in light of the changes Obama discussed and promised during his campaigns before and after the election. No one should resolve to resign to poll results, given their nature of selective statistics. Please consider Obama's promise of a civilian military force to rise from the enforcement arm of Americorps, and his announcement last month to triple the membership of Americorps. I don't care which party you are, or who you voted for, silence equals death.

the only thing this country owes Dick Chaney is a jail sentence. He should long ago have been brought up on charges of conspiracy. Without bids, his company Halliburton, was given the contract to rebuild Iraq. He's a bad joke.

Listen, it was just fine when Carter and Clinton openly criticized President Bush and his administration, so why is it wrong for Dick Cheney to criticize Obama and his!?!

May both sides should just shut up!

LOL, the only sane Republican left in the party is a Canadian. Figures.

I do not understand how Cheney can say his administration kept us safe, when 9/11 happened on their watch, the worst disaster in the US since Pearl Harbor. He is an opportunist and is talking now to protect his hind quarter. He is trying to make up for eight years of classical failure in all aspects of the administration. He should shut up and go away and hope he is not prosecuted for allowing and encouraging torture which in turn violated the Geneva convention and made the US no better than Al Quada in the eyes of the world. Even though Cheney does not care what the rest of the world thinks, our reputation does matter if we want to continue to be a world leader. This worthless little man should just go back to Wyoming and become bear meat.

It appears to me that Colin Powell is by far the most level headed republican out there. If creating contrast between the two party's means one must alienate all moderate republicans, then the republicans have no hope. When I listen to a radio program like Rush Limbaugh I continually here how far to the left Obama has pushed the Dems. If that is the case, isnt a moderate republican a contrast with this far left Democratic party?

In my opinion, people like Rush Limbaugh cost the republicans the election. Cheney will be remembered in infamy, and hopefully republicans and democrats will just ignore these ultra conservative voices attempting to divide congress. We need a congress that works together. And by working together I do not mean we should let the democrats call all of the shots. We need our two party system to make compromises with each other, not expect all or nothing.

Jerry

Cheney took this country down a road we should never had entered and that is the "torture road". I am a retired veteran of 40 years service to this country, it is my love, it is my passion. What Cheney did was to slap the face of all veterans, past, present and future. We have to hold the higher moral ground, always, completely. He did not and that is terrible for all of us. He has no right to even open his mouth.

Cheney is out there now because someone is actually questioning him, which never happened for the 8 years he was in office. If anyone did try to question him, he basically declared himself and GWB kings and above being questioned. Cheney may be just a little nervous. It's not out of duty, you can bet on that. He and all of his cronies have made a ton of money from the Iraq and Afghanistan "wars on terror."

pointofview

Did you read the article at all? I read about a conservative with a working brain in his head speaking sense! We all loose out when Cheney acts like he does, republican, democrat, independant.

"There are only about 1 out of 5 Americans who strongly disapprove of the job President Obama is doing."

You are one of those freightened, old dinosuars. Your political views are almost extinct!!!!!

No one is painting Bush like Cheney now. Bush has decided to help the nation not try to fill it with partisim, division and fear like Cheney.

I would take Powell over Cheney or Limbaugh anyday!!!!!!!!!!!! That least he has integity and values.

If 0bama can consistently blame Bush/Cheney for all of his woes, why should people from previous administration hold their tongues and not defend themselves? 0bama's regular "I inherited this" line is getting old.

Hard to figure out which of these two is the national spokesperson for the Republican party. Maybe they both share that role. How sad.

Perhaps if the Obama administration and their mouthpieces were not constantly vilifying the previous administration (against normal protocol), the previous administration would see no need to respond. Funny how that works. Once in office, how many times did Reagan publicly blame Carter for the mess that he inherited? How many times did he even mention the previous administration. Uhhh...none to my knowledge. You libs can take that as a challenge to find a statement from him post-election. Did Bush blame Clinton policies for the recession he inherited....nope. Obama's words are simply coming back to roost. Too bad.

if someone breaks the law, they should be prosecuted. it shouldn't matter if they were running the country or not. we captured sadam hussein and he was put to trial. if cheney broke the law, he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. and the same can be said for the generals and whoever else authorized torture.

if we’re going to moderate and try to make ourselves look like we’re on the same page as Obama, well, he is going to get all the credit for all the good and we’re going to all the blame for all the bad and there is going to be no reason to ever vote for Republicans.”

shouldnt everyone, not just republicans or democrats really be more concerned with simply setting things right in our country rather than who gets credit for it? this is precisely what is wrong with our govt, and i hate to say it, particularly the republicans.

Funny how Rush and Dick love their country so much, but neither was willing to fight for it. Dick took every possible deferment to get out of serving in Vietnam and told George C. Wilson of the Washington Post, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." Rush used a private doctor"s excuse (he did not get examined by a military doctor) noting a "pilonidal cyst" on his arse. These are the war mongers, I mean yellow bellies of the Republican party. They are not fit to shine Colin Powell's boots.

Is Cheney out of prison already? If you took a worldwide pole as to who the least favorite people on Earth are, Cheney would be in the top 2. Why would a news organization dedicated to "news" even bother covering what Cheney has to say? People like him will have to spend the rest of their lives in gated communities while the rest of us get to walk around freely.

Cheney cannot stand not being in the spotlight and no longer in office. He tries to sell his torture and fear tactics to gain control of the people.

Had he and Bush been looking out we would have never been attacked to begin with and they proved they could have cared less since they lied and said we had to go to Iraq and the heck with the fact we had thousand die. Lies fear and torture.

Why is our government tolerating this man and his behavior.

Why shouldn't it be okay for Cheny to criticize Obama? Is he above reproach? We have had too many years of fiscal irresponsibility by both sides of the aisle and that is why we are in the mess we are in. Not because "Bush did" and "Obama didn't" or vice-versa. I never hear anyone mention William Jefferson Clinton, but some of this mess can be attributed to him.

More power to the likes of Cheney and Limbaugh. I hope they continue to undermine the efforts to reform the GOP into an electable party. Obama is already grateful to these people. And he will have to send Cheney & Limbaugh a thank you card after his reelection in 2012.

there are very few completely evil and amoral people out there and Dick Cheney is one of them...and who does this columnist guy think he is...supporting Rush Limbaugh? what an idiot...this just proves that republicans have flying around on cloud 9 for a bit too long...and knowing Rush he probably brought some pills to help them out

Somebody needs to speak up, most of the media won't since all but one or two of them are nothing more than a propaganda arm for the administration. I kinda remember another time when the media was controlled by the powers in charge, this time they sold out voluntarily. So it looks like Dick Cheney is filling that void.

The entire world breathed a sigh of relief with a new administration; no longer ruled by criminals. I understand that it must be hard to go from being a megalomaniac sociopath ruling the United States, to a has-been, but haven't we suffered enough?

It must be said ... we've heard more from Mr. Cheney since January than we heard from him during his entire time in office! Why are we even listening to him at this point?! He's old news.

What does it matter? Whatever a conservative says is wrong, but when a liberal says it: "patriotic." Pathetic. Speaking your mind only matters to the media if you are a liberal. I can read one thing on Fox News and then see NOTHING even mentioned about it elsewhere. I do not get my news from one source, but when Wanda Sykes can wish death on a person and people view it as funny but a sports commentator cannot do the same to a liberal there is a double standard. I vote because it is my right, but that doesn't mean that I have to just believe what is told me because the other half of the United States voted the other way. Where did our freedom of speech go? Wishing death on a person shouldn't be seen as appropriate no matter what side you are on.

Steve,,,,,, What have you been smoking?????

It is a compliment to be criticized by dead eye Dick and Hillbilly Heroin Rush. They are what is wrong with our society rather than what is right.

Cheney's arrogance helped divide this country and now he's using those same skills to help divide his party. If "True Republicans" want to party like it's 1989, that's their choice. The world I live in looks a lot different and I want a leader who has visited the 21st century.

It's funny how we were attacked on Bushes Watch and you think he kept us safe. We are only safer now because Americans are watching out for Americans and are no longer depending on the Government to do it. BUSH FAILED TO KEEP US SAFE! HE WAS IN CHARGE WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED!!!

EVEN AFTER THAT HE SPENT AN ESTIMATED TOTAL (after calculating his days on vacation if they were taken consecutively.) 3 YEARS out of 8!

We were attacked 8 months into his administration which should have been enough time for GREAT BUSH to Prevent 9/11.

Cheny hid behind closed doors for 7 years and now he wants to be on center stag. What a joke this is and Rush is no better. Rush proclaims to be such a christian and yet every time he opens his mouth his spews out garbage. Cheny and Bush should be tried for war crimes and imprisoned, and before being sent to prison, they should be water boarded first. Maybe they would be signing a diiferent tune.

Looks like we have a lot of angry people that have forgotten 9/11. I don't think that Bush planned that before he was voted into office. Of course, most people will not volunteer that they voted for Bush twice.

Frankly, I am apauled at the behavior of Cheney and Limbaugh. These people are not roles models for our young people. We never heard Clinton and/or Gore taking shots and Bush/Cheney did we? And the reason was that they were civilized gentleman who knew this is divisive and not good for the country. So, please stop the petty arguing and above all leave our new president and vice-president alone. They have enough on their minds cleaning up the mess left by the last administration.
And, as for Colin Powell, he is a great America, so leave me alone, as well.

Cheney has to attack Obama so that he can claim it's a political tit-for-tat when more news comes out that we tortured suspects to gin up support for the fraudulent war in Iraq.

Cheney's hoping that the average American can't tell the difference between a war crimes truth commission and the politicized Clinton/Lewinsky affair. Cheney is wrong – most Americans (the 21% that make up the GOP base, aside) can clearly see the difference.

It's a hail mary, but it's all Cheney's got left.

The lack of truth in media is the core problem.

Cheney and Bush had very difficult jobs and they served our country with honor and distinction. Can't blame the economy on them – it was greedy Americans and dishonest bankers; can't blame the outcome of the Iraq war on them – it was faulty intelligence and the urge to prevent another 9/11; what matters most is the safety of America. I don't care how we are portrayed by our allies (France, Germany, etc.). It was mostly the left/liberal media who manipulated the news to cast Bush/Cheney as horrible leaders. As an American, it hurts that these men are called "terrorists" by the citizens of nations who aid from the US – not to mention the ilks like Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, etc......

I have family and friends in Iraq. They tell me about the horror that goes on over there and the evil that our young men and women do to those people. When those new pictures come out, your going to see just how sick and twisted people can be. When my 30 year old friend bragged about beating someone to death, it instantly ended our friendship. He doesn't know what he did wrong either.

Point of view...interesting, well, point of view. Its amazing how republican supporters always try and throw the blame back on the democrats or the media (there is a massive difference, just ask Fox news!!!!). The democrats were silenced the past 8 years by the republicans and their massive fear mongering and distortion of the truth. Truly shameful. The reason why the GOP is going down the d.r.a.i.n is simple, the amount of information now available to the population allows its citizens to make informed decisions based on teh FACTS and not the b.s that gets thrown at them. That means the GOP can't rely on dishonest tactics anymore. And just to add before you say I'm a democrat...i'm not.

Dick Cheney is only out there to defend what his perverted mind sees as his great legacy-torture, secrecy, lies, war profiteering, and the destruction of our economy. It is such a shame that now, out of fear and hatred, he has actually convinced some Americans that torture is ok. If, we dont' set the record straight and prosecute them, torture will soon becoming to a neighborhood near you. How far behind will the police departments be, when they realize torture is ok, if it gets them get the information they need to arrest someone? All those that were involved in the decision to torture need to be prosecuted. Then we can get back to being real Americans and Dick Cheny and the torture supporters will shut up and go to prison.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills! It may or may not be appropriate for an ex-VP to criticize the current administration... but whether or not that is the case here, the conclusion in this instance is NULL and VOID! Obama and his administration has openly been critical, while in office, of the Bush administration. It's completely absurd, illogical, and irresponsible to think that Cheney can't defend the Bush administration. They are on the verge of having some of their ex-staff members indicted on criminal charges!

I'd be much more inclined to accommodate Mr. Frum's recommendation had former Presidents Carter and Clinton and former VPs Mondale and Gore kept their traps shut during the Bush administration years.

Funny...I seem to recall liberals demanding that dissent be accorded respect. How's it feel with the shoe on the other foot, kids?

Funny how Cheney always talk about how safe they kept America since 9/11 but the reality is 3,000 people died on Geroges watch in NYC – that is a part of his legacy. Then another 4,300 have died in Iraq a war of choice that had nothing to do with 9/11. Thats over 7,300 Americans that died on the Bush/Cheney experiment that went bad. Grade A losers at best.

anyone who would listen to the spineless Rush Limbaugh and the gutless Dick Cheney. Havent these kinds of people done enough damage to this country? Why isnt both Rush and Dick not sitting in jail? Dick should be in prison for treason and Rush in jail for being a habitual pill popper that buys oxy`s by the thousands! Whats wrong with society to put me in jail for smoking a joint but this no good for nothing pill junkie can walk scott free and run his suck about things he absolutely has no idea about much less talking about!

I just want to comment on some comments made by several people about CNN. I always watch them because I have found their news coverage to be very thorough and they always include both sides if possible, but, sometimes the other side doesn't want to come on. Quit blaming CNN for the republican woes(altho' that is usually the republican way..not to take responsibility). If you want to go after liars and spinners in the media-try FOX news. They are disgusting!!!!!!!

Actually, I hope that Cheney continues to shoot his mouth off and hope that Limbaugh, Hannity, and the stooges at Faux News continue to voice their support of their for him. I can't think of a better way to keep the GOP in a box under the bed where it belongs.

Jerad says ... "If the Republicans want to have a chance in the next elections they need to shut up the closed minded, ultra-right wing people in their party. Nobody wants to hear this stuff anymore"

So I guess the republicans need to shut up their ultra-right wing people, but Democrats can host "Move On.org" and Daily-Kos conventions, invite them up to Washington and give them a microphone, hold mock Bush impeachments, and write in their daily blogs ... and thats OK?

How often is an elected official with a "D" posting in the Huffington Post.

Double standards are the standard of the Democrat party. They are just not exposed because the media is in the bag for them.

Sickening.

Yes Cheney's patriotism has been shown. Let's see...he destroyed american respect, abused and disrespected the power balance of the 3 branches of government, helped hurled us into economic ruin, and took our constitution and ripped it to shreds with his actions. And that's just off the top of my head. You know who keeps him talking? The media that pays attention to it. It's pretty easy to make him go away and you guys have the power to do it. Stop reporting it.

I find it most disturbing when a reporter (David Frum) takes it upon himself to pass judgenment and deny anyone the freedom of speech, especially when the speaker is voicing an opinion that is neither slanderous nor hateful.

As a Canadian I am truly amazed that any news organization would give the time of day to any of Bush cronies...after the damage they have done to the world they should go away, shut up and hope that people have short memories..that there are still people in the USA that would vote Republican is truly scary...the only good news is that the Republican party seems to be comprised of old white men...and they should be dying off soon and the world will be rid of them...The entire world looks to the US for leadership...hopefully Obama can provide it...so far he looks better than Bush ever did...

Regarding the previous comment : "After 9/11 he helped keep this nation safe"?? I'm always confused by statements such as "made this country safer". By what measurement is this country safer? Is this simply because there hasn't been another attack on the United States? Is it a certainty that this would have occurred without our country shamefully being the aggressor in a war based on the promises of weapons of mass destruction? Would we be safer without the increased methods of torture that we inflicted, the same measures that we killed the Japanese for when they used them on U.S. troops during WWII? Being the bully on the block doesn't make you safer, it makes you a target for all the kids who are sick and tired of being persecuted. What ties did the 9/11 attack have to Iraq? What ties does it have to the war we're fighting in Afghanistan? And what about Iran, do we need to invade them to be "safe"? Where does the madness end. Obama is focusing our efforts inwards towards improved infrastructure, science and alternative energy sources that are sustainable. Isn't that what will really make us safer?

Rush (got a job through my daddy) and Dick ( never fired a gun at anything that could shoot back) are cowards. Neither will sacrifice their comfy lifestyle to help America.

These 2 guys do more harm than good to both the U S A and their own party .. Rush & Dick. There is no need for this kind of criticism right now when the Country has been brought to its knees by the Greedy money people who the the G O P favors, tolerates, and encourages. Thank you.

Dick Cheney is not "a great man." He's a snake and I wish he'd crawl back under the rock he came from and take that idiot Rush Limbaugh with him. For eight years we heard virtually nothing from that gas bag. He should shut up....

When Cheney took office in 2000 with FORMER Prez. Bush, he agreed to PROTECT the Constitutional rights of the American People. There was no provisions or "buts' opposing this oath. After 9/11 that oath was thrown out the window in the name of War. Where were the Democrats since then? Not in Power! 51 out of 100 is a majority, but not enough to get anything done. Don't down and blame Democrats for 2 yrs they had majority but no REAL power! Get your facts straight. The Bush/Cheney Admin is what put this country into the gutter. Them ALONE! Both are Republicans. Oh and just another fact, since 1980 other than Prez Clinton, the Republicans have held majority in everything including the executive and congressional offices. So hunny, blame your friends the Republicans for the country's downfall, not the 1 person that gave a "majority" to Democrats for a total of 2 yrs. That is NOT true power! This demise didn't happen in 2 yrs, it happened over the course of decades!

it is absolutely unconscionable that Cheney and Rush are the leading spokespersons for the Repulican party. Sending them to jail is to let them get away too easy for the damage they did to this great country and the world. They need to be shipped to hell and have them rot there for eternity. If Republicans have any sense left to save/redeem their party, they will reject these two clowns immediately and move on to create a broader coalition based on true conservative principles.

Maybe Cheney will pull off another domestic terrorist attack so he can brainwash the country again and become president.

I guess no one in America can have an opinion or criticize the actions or job performance of someone, even though the Democrats have been doing it for years, but that's different. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it has to stop. Please.... ever heard of freedom of speech, free to live like you want, opportunity, and patriotism or has that been changed by political correctness! I did not agree with everything the former adminstration did, but I respected their position and decisions.
This country has gotten into the blame game, the scapegoat and away from being accountable for our own actions as Americans. We need to love each other as Americans with the same purposes and vigor as our forefathers and stop being led by the nose to failure. Wake up America and smell the coffee!

I say let him talk, let Limbaugh talk, let Gingrich talk, let them all talk. Because the more they do, the more repulsive the GOP looks, and the more it shrinks.

Dear Republican Party: Once you get Rush to shut up and stop trying to entertain us with his no-nothing – has never done anything attitude, I'll be more inclined to listen to what the Republican's have to say. As long as you have Mr. Cheney now deciding to step up and give his opinion, which he should have done when he had the opportunity, I won't be listening either. We, the people, aren't necessarily stuck on any side, we just want who wants the best for ALL people.

This man was in hiding for 8 years, didn't see him, and he did nothing. Now he comes out lashing at Obama, OH PLEASE, SHUT UP.

Powell is a supposed moderate. The Republician candidate, McCain, was a moderate; however, Powell endorsed a Democratic.
Cheney is correct when we asks, "Is Powell a Democrat?"

Cheney and Bush did mess up our nation deeply, sure they kept us safe after 911 but not from 911. Plus they botched up Iraq terribly causing these past six years of horrendous bloodshep over there and just barley is the nation now stablized. Yes the problems aquired by our nation are from the republicans. AMericans were seriously angry and anyone who disagreed with them were made to look like fools. Love of country? HARDLY, more like a love for themselves and their own interests. Right this is a free country and we are now free from the last administrations lies, hypocracy, and dictatorship. They practically did as they pleased irregardless of the wishes of the rest of the nation. Cheney should be exhiled from here I say. ....Cheney is an un-prosecuted criminal who willfully broke the laws of the United States in misguided attempts to pursue his vision of unlimited power executive power and silencing critics who disagreed with him. What the country owes him is a trip to jail......I strongly agree with this person

Did anybody give this advice to Clinton and Carter after they went after Bush for 8 years. Cheney is just saying what the last 3 CIA chiefs are saying, is Obama is making huge mistakes in all national security. If we are attacked again because of his love for the terrorist then he should be tried for treason.

Cheney should just go write his revisionist memoirs ...

I'm at odds with people talking about Gov. Jindal of Louisiana. What has he accomplished in one of the poorest states in the nation? You should first have a state that's at the top of some list before you talk about the leader of that state being the leader of this country. No leader from that state should be considered for anything, especially the leader of this country. What's he going to do, bring it down to the level of the state of Louisiana. Ridiculous to even consider Gov. Jindal as a leader of a party..... He nor his state has not accomplished anything that would be considered eye poping OR is it that he's from a slave state.......

Cheney shouldn't be criticizing anyone, let alone the Obama administration. When you've had four deferments to avoid going into the military, this makes him a Yellow Belly Coward who perfers to hide behind those who were slaughtered all in the name of oil.

Cheney needs to spend time on his knees asking God for forgiveness of his sins.

Frum, Obama, and administration have been attacking not just individuals like Rush, Cheney, and Bush, but also veterans and calling them terrorist, the among the most patriotic of Americans for which Obama's Napolitano recently apologized for. If you haven't been attacked by a democrat or lib, you don't love your country.

Dave- Your question about how safe did Cheney keep America before 9/12? Maybe you should ask your former (Impeached) president Clinton that question. He didn't do anything during his 8 years in office to secure America's safety. I.e. Oklahoma City bombing, WTC attack in 1993, USS COLE, etc........ Hmmmm, interesting how you forgot about the accountability card for your party.

Cheney is about as great a man as Charles Manson. There is nothing that Cheney and Bush did to "keep us safe" after 9/11. In fact, what they did is polarize a lot of world opinion against us. Condoning - in fact, specifying - torture lost us a tremendous amount of respect and cooperation around the world. The only reason we haven't had another attack is simply the fact that the terrorist groups haven't planned one. In a country where freedom is our right, we cannot prevent another one without givng up that freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said, however "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety", and that is what happened under the Bush Administration.

Cheney, who should be facing the World Court in The Hague for crimes against humanity based on the Iraqi war, as well as criminal charges for his no-bid contracts to his buddies at Blackhawk and Halliburton, needs to keep his trap shut.

Someone ought to explain to the drug addict that Republicans are already getting the blame for all the bad, and they deserve the lion's share of it.

Cheney has every right to comment on what Obama is doing as the new administration has been bashing their predecessors since taking office. The media presented a very negative image of the Bush administration for quite a few years and the American public was convinced of this after hearing it day in and day out. But the facts are, we were amazingly safe during the Bush/Cheney administration after 9-11.

I don't remember even ONCE hearing Bush blame 9-11 on his predecessor even though Clinton admitted failing to act on Saddam and Osama Bin Laden as his biggest regrets.

While your at it, release Clinton's records on what he was planning for Iraq and Afghanistan but failed to act on to make American safer.

Oh please! "Wildly upopular, polarizing figures?" When has CNN ever said this about Barack Obama, or Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright or...etc,etc,etc. It's ALWAYS the republicans who are "polarizing" with CNN.

If the republicans can't criticize Obama – who can? The media certainly isn't doing it, the comedians aren't doing it, now the republicans aren't allowed to either? Oh, and we're also not allowed to criticize those RINO's (supposedly in OUR OWN PARTY) who go against their own party platform?

How about just a little objectivity? Don't answer, I know; you ARE objective...

I say let the dogs bark just like mine does but only when he needs to go to the bathroom. Perhaps both Rush and Cheney need a bathroom break. Bush proved to be the wise one by just keeping his mouth shut, I credit him for not joing the dogs.

Interesting points of view. Seems there a few views relecting current demographics. The previous administration cannot defend its foreign policy as it was predicated on lies. No money could be made in Afghanistan so why not Iraq where Cheney and his pundits of disaster capitalism could remake a country whiile the individual responsible for the WTC attack is still free to roam.

Time for the nation and people to hold elected officials accountable and responsible. Push forward the charges and indict Bush, Cheney, Rove .

Cheney slamming Powell – what a joke. Powell is a decorated war veteran. Cheney had 5 draft dereferments during the Vietnam war. ecause he lacked cajones. How gutless to have no problem sending thousands of Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen to their deaths while he lacked the courage of his convictions during VietNam. What a gutless coward.

Cheney is divisive. He was used to being a puppet master to Bush, and now no one is listening to him, so he has to rant. Colin Powell is showing a lot of class and intelligence by not making out of control comments. Limbaugh and Coulter are entertainers who make their millions by mouthing off. We are a nation of many different viewpoints, and our leaders cannot lead by only leading a few extremists (whether to the left or the right). It seems apparent that Colin Powell understands this, even though he is not running for office. It's a pity more politicians haven't followed his lead.

Oh oh oh! CNN is politically dominated by Liberals some of u say? GO watch FOX news, at least CNN tries to show both sides of the story and tries to be fair unlike FOX news being all about republican propaganda

The new President should call the old President and the VP should call the old VP – yikes! What would that call sound like? "I need to know how you screwed this up so I can do the same thing" Obama/Biden got elected precisely because they were NOT going to be a do-over of Bush/Cheney.

"Look, Dick Cheney is a great man and one of the most effective and knowledgeable people in the Bush administration and all of Washington. The country owes him a great deal."

Look, all above is PROVEN false at great loss of blood and treasure. Why is Frum's opinion even germane?

After 911, strong bipartisanship got behind Bush & Company, right or wrong. Today, as a nation, we're more at risk than in 2002. Treason comes to mind when I consider the way Cheney, Rush, and the Republican party is acting. Agree or disagree, we are "One Nation..." How about we act like it!

Why do people keep saying Cheney is a great man? I think i've heard that four or five times the last week or two. If he's so great, why do we need to be reminded so frequently?

Hey David Frum, Dick Cheney is not a great man by any stretch of the imagination! He`s a war criminal! He`s done way to destroy this great country than any VP in our history! I and this country owes that man nothing but a supeona to stand trail as a traitor of this country! He was more interested in filling his pockets from no-bid contracts with Halliburton and fleecing the American People through his ties with big OIL!! I say between Dick and Rush its a toss up as to who the bigger villian is!

I'm a registered Republican and voted for Bush-Cheney both times. Once I heard the blatan lies and double talk coming out of the Whitehouse (WMD vs freedom for Iraqi's, Dana Perino's "The war did not cause the rise of oil prices" lie) I voted independent this time around so my vote would truly count. I question Cheney's sincerity. I think they are still trying to salvage reputations. I also still despise liberals as we all should. They are as bad as ultra conservative Republicans.

I would like Frum to shut up. We do not want him and Collin like people who voted for Obama knowing fully well that Obama did not have values of Republic party and its agenda. Frum and Collin voted for Obama knowing fully well that McCain was a good man with so much experience. So, shut up Frum type of people and join the Democratic party.

The only thing Dick Cheney needs to do is get away from Limbaugh, as he is nothing but a dirt bag who runs his mouth but does not have the fortitude to run for oofcie but criticize evey elected offciial. he whines like a two yearold when someone questions his stupid rambling. As a Republican I can only say that Cheney and Bush did what they thought was right though like the others I cann disagree with my aprty but still support their causes!

It is time to clear this up. Rush Limbaugh is not a candidate for office. Rush Limbaugh has been elected to nothing. Rush Limbaugh is not a politician. Rush Limbaugh is not in charge of anything, except three hours of radio time everyday. The fact that the left is continually worried about Rush Limbaugh is one of the funniest things I have seen in quite a long time. Keep commenting on Limbaugh. All you do is shine the spotlight on him and make him more popular.

The GOP is out of touch with reality, and are falling apart. They have a nitwit slob like rush speaking on their behalf, then some freak like cheney who finally woke up after 8 years and suddenly wants to be heard? They've destroyed our nation, and have the nerve to criticize the new administration because they now have to clean up their mess.....

I will truly enjoy the day I get to see the GOP implode, which won't be long.

Sour grapes. The Republicans went too far to the right. They let the religious right have too much control and too extreme values (ever heard of "seperation of church and state!"?).
Funny because I 'm pretty sure Jesus would be a democrate. Really if you look at his values and teachings, they are more in line with the Dems; not the greedy, self serving, moral imposing that the Republicans have turned into.

Cheney, Limbaugh...cry all you want. America spoke, you lost. Suck it up and take your lumps just like the Dems did for the last 8.

Did anyone see "palin" in the list of governers?

If we "moderate" and try to look on the same page with Obama?

Seriously? When people are forced to moderate, it spits in the face of democracy, and every principle that this country was founded on. Opinions are opinions people. Each of you is criticizing on this very thread, so by each of your statements, whether you be in favor of or opposing Cheney's statements, you are being hypocrites.

Grow up people. Think for yourself. If you don't like opinions, then don't read, write, or ever watch TV.

A move towards moderation (i.e. – societal homogenization) is a move towards socialism, and a loss of our human right to do, act, and say as we please within the law.

pointofview...
You write Bush and Cheney helped keep us safe after 9/11. Where were they DURING 9/11??? Not keeping us safe? Last I checked, the last time we had been attacked on our soil before 9/11 was WWII. Thats many years of numerous presidents keeping us safe. 9/11 happened on Bush's and Cheney's watch. Too bad Bush and Cheney hadn't learned from day 1 that as leaders it was they who were now responsible for the well being of our nation. It is people like you, "pointofview" who take 9/11 as an example of success by Bush and Cheney. I believe slacking off and learning by mistake at the expense of thousands of lives as an example of failure.

pointofview- Dick Cheney is the mastermind of the biggest government funded business opportunity and money laundering scheme in history. He cares more about money and power than he does about people. The Iraq war was a lie he perpetuated and benefitted from. Tax payer money went into the war and came out as corporate profits for him. People hate Dick Cheney because he lies and uses fear against people for his benefit. That's the kind of person he is.

For pointofview, the Dems had 50 votes in the Senate. Not much you can do with that. Bush knew any veto was up held. Interesting that the only bills vetoed were after the Repubs lost control and all the deregulation that took placed had a huge affect on making this recession significantly deeper and worse than it should have been.
Much of this took place during the last 16 years which were controlled by the Repubs.

As a former republican, who is now an Independent, perhaps they need to listen to Colin Powell because he's right and a great man and American. Cheney? Great? No-Way!! But thanks for the laugh.

psychos like cheney should be prosecuted and sentenced to life in prison in Gitmo. Too bad Obama decided to shut Gitmo down.

@pointofview
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Remember that by keeping our country 'safe' as you state, more than 30,000 Iraqi people have been murdered. That was a direct result of our invasion and the destablization of the country. Saddam was not a great man but Bush made some serious mistakes. Bush lied about WMD right along with his buddy Cheney.

Afghanistan I completely supported invasion of.

And yes, democrats were in power the last two years and I am no fan of Pelosi either. She should have done her job and impeached both of them. I don't know where you work, but if my employer is not pleased with my performance chances are I'd be fired. This should have happened to both of them long before our last election.

Not sure if people know this or not, but 911 happened on Cheyney and Bush's watch so how safe did they keep us? The republicans only know how to tear down and destroy, they have not done one thing to help this country or economy and are not offering to help. They are proud to be the party of no.

Its time for Cheney to clam it up..... apparently he missed the election results of November 2008.

We all talk about " the base " of the Republican Party. Republican leaders are so worry of upsetting " the base " and in the way they allienate the other 70 % of possible Republican voters. Republican leaders should realize that " the base " is part of the problem. The 20-30 % of " the base " of the republican party has become so fanatical in their views that makes them look like the other base, al-qaeda. Ironically, al-qeada means " the base" in Arabic.

I hope Cheney keeps providing the prosecution with details of his support of illegal torturing. Confession is good for the soul.....and even better for the prosecution.

Hmm,
Rush is just being rush, problem is that there is no other "leading conservative" voice out to seriuosly contend against the democratic future push, so Rush is it. Cheney is speaking from the side of pride, pride in the job he did, pride in the perception of america he created, simple pride.
But if he or any republican had a real good leg to stand on, they would recognize that the country "overwhelimingly voted the democratic congress and president, thus rejecting those republican ideal of growth.

If they say they kept the country safe, then america would have voted for the party that would keep them safe, obviously that wasnt the case.
What get me is that republicans keep trying to speak for "all americans" not all americans nor a majority of americans voted for, are voting with, nor even support current functions and ideals based in conservative mantra.
There is a disconnect and everytime they use the term..."where just saying what americans want" they show that disconnect more and more.

Todd,

Here is your chance. Be their defense bud....let's hear it.
(Silence)
Just what I thought.....

Cheney....a GREAT man? That statement clearly shows how delusional Republicans really are. Let's point out what makes him a great man. He shot his "friend" in the woods while hunting. He outed a covert CIA operative. He authorized torture of "suspected" (not found guilty) military combatants. He lied about WMD in Iraq. He gave no-bid contracts to his ex-employer Haliburton and made millions, perhaps billions in the process. He had one of the lowest public ratings out of any Vice President in the history of this country. He has a lesbian daughter whom he does not believe deserves the same rights as he does. I could go on and on about the hundreds of things that makes this man so great. Wait...I must be a Republican because I'm delusional now.

Let Cheney talk all he wants. But some of us remember the peril in relying on him, particularly when he is "certain."

Simply stated, Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”
Dick Cheney address at the Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention – August 26, 2002

"I'm convinced, absolutely convinced, that [using enhanced interrogation techniques] we saved thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of lives.”
Dick Cheney on Face the Nation – May 10, 2009

Warning: Dick Cheney “certainty” has been known to cause serious danger to human decency.

I am so sick of the media promoting Rush Limbaugh & Dick Chaney on their bad behavior. This is sad! When will this ever end? As a country, we need to grow and go on. Please, please, reporters, continue to promote the positive and leave the negative alone even for one day.

D.C a great American huh? Great at what? Serving his country in time of need,I think not,lest we forget those 4-5 deferrments during the V.C conflict. Oh yeah for got that one huh? D.C needs to SHUT HIS MOUTH !!and go hunting and hope not to shoot anybody!!

Oh please just go away...The GOP promotes HATE they are not for anything that opposes all people but the wealthy and the rich. Dick Cheney ethics are deplorable he and Rush Limbaugh are carbon copies...What a coward! How sad....! Very Sad!

Your man, Obama, is constantly criticizing Bush and Cheney. Why is it unacceptable to you for Cheney to set the record straight when Obama starts running his mouth?

Hmmm....wasn't it "treasonous" for anyone to speak out against the Bush/Cheney administration? Now it's OK for Cheney to do the same to the current administration? Hypocrisy at its finest....No shock here. GOP is done. They are no longer relevant with these closed-minded lunatics.

crips and bloods, hells angels and outlaws, wear your colors proudly.
sure, vote by your gang affilition.

Steve in the West has it right! How can Frum call a man who completely ignores the constitution, actually goes above the constitution, commits deplorable crimes, exasperates and fuels terrorists motives to inflict hate on americans - a great man. Cheney was hiding in bunkers with Rumsfeldt long before he was vice president devising plans against enemies that didn't exist. He suffers from paranoia and needs medical attention.

Ahhh.....I love Republican logic....Torturing human beings is Aokay....but gay people wanting to get married....NOW THAT'S AN ABOMINATION!!!!.....morons...

Not so fast, if Obama & people in his administration can be critical of the previous administration & their actions, then it's only fair that they be able to take heat from them as well. The door swings both ways, that's what America is all about. I actually like Obama & many of the things he proposes, but not all of them. Freedom of speech...remember...

With the exception of Colin Powell, everyone who served in the Bush Administration should be arrested, tried and convicted of "Treason". After that, they should all be taken to the Hague and tried for "War Crimes", and "Crimes Against Humanity". The sentence of execution should then be carried out on live television. That is what they deserve. Bush and Cheney should have to go last so that they can see the results of their folly.

Cheney can't comment on Obama but it was OK for Clinton to go out of the country to tell all his supporters that Bush is awful all for the$$$$$. I know they were private speches so i doesn't matter. I never heard Regan or Bush 41 ever bad mouth Clinton. How is it when Hillary said it's every AMerican's right to speak out about the Bush or any other administration, but you can't say anything about Obama. I guess that should only be the Obama way !!!!!!!!!!NOT I

shak May 12th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

I would like Frum to shut up. We do not want him and Collin like people who voted for Obama knowing fully well that Obama did not have values of Republic party and its agenda. Frum and Collin voted for Obama knowing fully well that McCain was a good man with so much experience. So, shut up Frum type of people and join the Democratic party.
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Was is it, like 23% of Americans consider themselves Republican now? Heck with the latest round of 'get out' we've been hearing from you, I wonder what the percentage is now?

So, let's just imagine the next Republican congress and White House:

Rush Limbaugh, President
Laura Enghram, VP
Ann Coulter, Secy of State
Sean Hannity, WH Press secretary
Bill O' Reilley, Asst Press Secy
DICK Cheney, Secretary of Defense
Danielle Steele, Secy of something irrelevant
Glenn Beck, Asst to Defense Secretary

Boy, the world would be so much safer than it is today (they'd probably throw Colin Powell in Guantanamo for treason i.e. supporting Obama.

I'm confused about what Rush actually wants on the domestic front. Individual liberties and small govenment? Sounds great in theory. In practice – well that's a different story. Bush 43 grew the gov't by what, 40-50% at least? And it wasn't discretionary spending. All our money goes to social security, medicare, defense and interest on the national debt. All the other cabinet level agencies are tiny in comparison. Don't think we need a Dept of Agriculture, Energy, Education, Commerce, Veterans Affairs or Interior? Fine – eliminate all of them and you still can't balance the federal budget.

The nations problems are a lot deeper than politicians want you to believe. The only people making money in this economy are the blowhards on TV and radio. They are inciting civil war by distracting us from the real issues while they get rich. Wake up people. Turn off your TV and do your own research.

When Mr. Cheney was in office he constantly critized, so now that is no longer there, he has the right to speak up about those in the White house.
Is this a double standard now ???
He should continue to speak his mind.

The media in this country has gone to S**! They help the democRATS condemn Cheney and Bush for keeping the country safe. Even though the Democrats knew how it was all being done, the RATS just didn't have the guts to stand up for what they supposedly believe in even though they have been in power for the last two years in Congress. Now that they control the media, Congress and the White House, its okay to come out against harsh interrogation, because they can manipulate the findings. Princess Pelosi is proof, she knew and did nothing even after she became speaker of the House. What a big fat liar. I believe what comes out a democRATs mouth about as much as I believe in the tooth fairy.
Oh yeah and its okay for leftist elitest to call conservative protesters "racists" and call for serious illness on concervatives in the name of "comedy." So much for a kinder, gentler government run by democRATS

I'm sorry, but the fact is that the democratic party is populated with highly educated, worldly and open minded individuals. IT IS A FACT! The republican party is populated with trailer trash PERIOD. It's a matter of mental capacity. You republitards really can't comprehend nuance and subtlety. I certainly do not consider conservative view points exclusively republican, it is not conservatism that is the problem, it is your 4th grade education.

-Kevin in Denver

It's a really tough choice on who we want as the center of the Republican party. On one hand you have Powell with a distinguished military career who put being an American over being a Republican. Then you have Cheney who got five deferments to evade the draft and stay out of Vietnam. Or Rush Limbaugh who got out of Vietnam because he had a cyst on his rear end, and an imaginary football injury. Do we want people who actually served, or chicken-hawks like Cheney and Limbaugh who have never put on a pair of combat boots?

Questions, questions...

Maybe two wrongs don't make a right but I have to side with Cheney on this one. When (and still is) Obama was campaigning how many times did he bash Bush and Cheney. As I recall his favorite term was "failed Bush Policies". Sorry but what goes around comes around. It is not okay for the Dems to get away with bashing the Reps and then come down on Cheney for doing the same thing.

Rush Limbough is an idiot and Cheney not far behind. Let the "talking heads" talk; because that is all they can do. They are not leaders of anything; if they were leaders; they would be doing something. If our country isn't safe, why isn't Cheney working with our administration. He must know something. And the fat walrus Limbough, he should get up off his chair and do something.

The next election can not come to soon for me, Acorn with their stolen votes. A President that won't produce his birth certificate. Young Senator form Ilinois who fillibustered to block reforms in Fannie Mae in 2005. Look what the Democrats are they remind me of Tricky Nixon with his slick lies. Obama and his Treasury Secretary are going to sink everyone of the unions workers jobs at Ponitac without even getting a vote from the UAW folks at Pontiac. That seems fair, they voted Obama in now reap what they have sown. Obama is just one slick teleprompter reader with no financial acumen at all. He will make a us a thrid world nation by the time we get him out of D.C. The press is also financially illiterate. How dumb none of them even covered the big correction this year the FAS 157 Mark to Market or as it was made in 2007 Mark to Lie rule. Mark to Market was enacted in late 2007 with the rule that sank a majority of companies financial books of the lie entered by their accountants. Didn't anyone there under stand this huge lie the FAS 157 was, assets are not worth zero because for one exact day in the accountants books you can not sell them that day wake up. Don't any of you folks have any common sense. Your all being taxed at 50 to 60 percent on taxes or more this is what is dragging the economy down. Add them up S.S. 7 percent matched by your employer another 7 percent thats 14 percent. Add your state and local income tax for me that 8 percent now your at 22 percent. Then add your property tax mind's at 3 percent now that makes 25 percent. Now add your federal 25 percent that makes 50 percent. Now add your sales tax 7 for me thats 57 percent. Now lets add medicare 1.65 makes for 58.65 now lets add your federal and state fuel tax 43 cents for my state works out to be another about $750 for my wife and I that means add another 1 percent makes for 59.65 percent. I have not even mentioned the match on the medicare by your employer the workmens compensation of 1 to 3 percent tax your employer pays. Do you get it were broke out here carrying all these folks on our back. Get off my back. Over paid governemt workers wages are way out of line by 30 to 50 percent in my small town. Firemen making 100 grand a year, small town mayor getting 114 grand way out of line. We are going to vote taxes down like you would not believe. Its coming the silent majority has had it with the liberals, the press, and the overspending governments. Were coming to get you and your not going to like it, tough get ready for some pay cuts or hair cuts down to the scalp.

Cheney should be heard – at least I want to know how his diabolic mind works. It may be a good lesson for everyone to learn how a seemingly patriotic and politically savvy American can so callously ignore our constitution & yet portray himself to be protecting our nation. Perhaps it will help us to stop such 'unpatriotic' people to win elections and attain the level of legitimacy that Bush/Cheney achieved.

Hmpf – what is going on – Cheney said and did nothing for 8 years except shoot his good buddy in the face w/a shotgun and bring heart disease to the forefront of America. Limbaugh was silent for once b/c he knew his party was stuck – STUCK. Bash Clinton, Bash Obama but heaven forbid anyone bash Bush/Cheney. I think it is hysterical that Cheney / Limbaugh have to scream for anyone to listen.

Republicans couldn't let go of Clinton b/c GW was such a flub and now they are terrified of Obama. I see a lot of crying wolf and temper tantrums – very unbecoming of a former VP, not surprising from Limbaugh.

The day I see the Bush Administration / Republican Party take any responsibility for anything will be the day hell freezes over and pigs fly. GROW UP!

Please remember there is a difference between entertainment and news.

All you Cheney-bashers better watch out, else he might invite you on a hunting trip...

I cannot stress enough that Gov't is like running a business, you do not see any growth for 4-5yrs after your changes have been implimented. Bush's 1st 4yrs were from an uprising housing market which the Dems knew exactly what they were doing and promoted the drive with or without credit. In Bush's 2nd term his policies began trickling in now, and the next 2-3yrs of Obamas term will be due to Bush's policies that are still in tact, Not the Dems. In 2012 – 2014 you will see Obamas policies effecting our lives.
America can win a war overseas what the heck is wrong with our own leaders who feel they can take down what proud American Dream business owners build, Dems should find a new profession. If a private company fails, another will come along and take its place. The only thing gov't should do is during bankruptcy ensure the tax payers gets their money back, either thru govt funding or courts and law suits, isn't that what these high atty's get paid to do?
Military wins the wars, Citizens build America, Attys try cases, Govt? has their hands in too many issues, and regulating too much of our lives and dreams!! And shameless to say they don't pay their own taxes, or take pay cuts like us and get away with it.

Republicans should realize that it is there attitudes rather than their philosophy that has pulled their party down. Indignities to anyone that doesn't share their beliefs has allienated many of their followers. Their belief is that the party is more important than people and that their way is the only acceptable way. As their membership declines, this is the moderates leaving first. What is remaining is becoming to represent only the extreme right wing view. As with the boom and bust of the 20's to the 50's, the Republican party was out of power for 24 years, perhaps again.

When the GOP starts fighting over who is "more" republican than the next guy, you know you have some problems. When the "voice" of the conservative party and the former Vice-President start talking in the same fashion, the nerves must really be raw. And to top it off, throw an American icon under the bus at the same time; a true sign of "Uniters – Not Dividers".

Let's get back to conservative government and let the states sort out the social issues. Protect my borders and foreign interests, provide for national infrastructure, and protect the environment.

K.I.S.S. – Keep It Simple Senator

When the Republican party became all about shifting our industry and jobs offshore and winking at the influx of cheap immigrant labor, that's the day it died. Their huge losses in the last election are a delayed reflection of that. Republicanism/Conservativism = dead until they bring jobs back. The Democrats better watch out as well because their lack of aggressiveness on the issue of getting jobs back will bite back. Strange that this issue is never directly addressed by politicians. Could it be the corporate lobbying $$$ silencing them???

3 words for Rush Limbaugh...paranoia...insecure...scare tactics. I mean really, I think the Republicans are smarter than this and they shouldn't align themselves with such paranoia. He's entertainment! and it's dangerous to keep validating a person of challenged mental capacity. Cheney is smart, but he's old school...it's time to open up your minds.

Where was all the concern when Jimmy Carter was making statements about George W. Bush? The intense media attention to this is yet another indication of the bias in the media.
As a former Democrat and now a Republican, we should not moderate. Our beliefs in our economic/social approach will be enough to stand on in the long run. There is no need to move to the "center" IE be more like Democrats. The out of control, insane spending, and takeover of the private sector will come home to roost. Don't believe me, read up on some history. Stay tuned!!

President Bushes first four years he had very high approval ratings..Then Katrina hit, we launched an illegal war, gas went over 4.00/gallon, the housing/economic bubble collapsed..After all this plus numerous other happenings i did not mention resulted in a 23 percent approval rating at the end..Doesn't anyone think that not taking care of the USA first lead to his demise?

Some people have been complaining that the media is now saying for the old administration to shut up... You're complaining that it's a double-standard in favor of the Democrats. Did you not read the part where Frum said the current administration shouldn't be prosecuting the old one? He gave one point for both sides.

Stop cherry-picking from this article and read the whole damn thing. He's trying to make a point that bickering between the old administration and the new administration shouldn't be happening, but all you're focusing on is the suggestion that the old administration shut up.

Oh, and to those of you complaining that Obama dissed the old administration when it was in power - he was a Senator, not an ex-president or ex-vice president. I doubt Obama will criticize the administration that follows him.

The only reason I feel that Colin Powell is sticking up for President Obama is because of the color of his skin. I could care less what color Obama is, but I think there are alot of people who care about that and will either use it for him or against him. When will the people of the U.S. ever learn? Seems at times we are going back to the slave days instead of moving ahead!!!

Chaney is allowed to say pretty much what he pleases (which he does), and I'm allowed to ignore him (Which I do ).

Why anybody listens to Cheney Anyway? He is a fundamentalist just like Ben laden. His extremist ideology polarized and divided people, promoted hatred and destruction, and pushed the world to a almost breaking point with 8 years in white house. If not prosecuted by court, he will no doubt be judged by history as someone who had done great damage to humanity. I hope next time Face The Nation will exercise better judgment than giving him any air time.

CNN and the demos think this is a major issue . . . get a life and start doing some real analysis . . . look at the future of no dollars in the goverment to pay for the many things the demos keep preaching and talking about. Come on CNN . . . stand up and do some real analysis . . . the USA is in deep financial trouble and you do not have enough intelligence to report the facts.

Its not about Republican bashing for me. As I recall, Dick Cheney got on the news circuit before the Iraq War (Rumsfeld went so far as to blame 9/11 on Iraq during the week of 9/11) and sold the war as if Al Queda was sitting in Iraq training to use airplanes and nuclear weapons. The intelligence was at best failed, at worst fabricated, and at most sparse. Yet he used that to achieve an aim that clearly transcended the events of the time and involved a larger policy that he helped formulate with the other neocons in the 1990s.

It was a deliberately misleading sales pitch. Those who apply such tactics should not be considered leaders, and I will certainly disregard what they say afterwards, including now.

This is an opinion I hold independent of CNN's Obama rallying/ Cheney smearing journalism tactics. I simply have no time for Mr. Cheney because he lied to me.

Isn't Cheney the guy that said: "We'll be greeted as liberators." and, " We're in the last throes of the insurgency." Why, with that sort of track record on the truth would anyone care and/or listen to him now? He's a bitter, old hack who can't stand it that people finally realized what an a** he is. Let's see, what's the word?...Oh yeah, Loser.

@commonsense

I don’t remember even ONCE hearing Bush blame 9-11 on his predecessor even though Clinton admitted failing to act on Saddam and Osama Bin Laden as his biggest regrets.
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Actually, Bin Laden was trained under Reagan. I never hear that either.

Richard Cheney is an imbecile!
No one cares what he says anymore!
Most of us never did! No one respects him, not even as the VP.
Rush Limbaugh is a moronic right wing extremist who needs to go take some more drugs!

Why are we still having conversations with Dick Cheney? His party lost. No one cares what he thinks. He needs to go back to the rock he craweled out from.

Cheney + Limbaugh = Psychopath + Sociopath